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December 30th, 2002, 11:42 PM
#1
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I went to the two main camera shops in town (and the main shop in my hometown) and the video equipment rental place and neither had a lens cap or clear UV filter for my camera.
Where can I buy this stuff? It's somewhere between 35 and 46. At least that's what I got from the mumblings of the old guys as they tried to fit stuff onto it.
I have a Canon Auto Zoom 318m.
Also, can anyone recommend a CHEAP tripod? At this point anything will do. I don't need a fluid-head yet.
My lens says 10-30mm, 1:1.8 Macro.
Is there anyway to get MORE into the frame? I mean, if I were to shoot two people in my kitchen, I couldn't get their whole bodies if I wanted to. So to get MORE into the frame do I need a camera with a smaller number (below 10) or a bigger number (over 30)?
I ordered 4 rolls of film from Kodak, 1 each of the films except for the non-projecter kind. Can Wal-Mart get ALL of these processed?
Thanks.
-Danny
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December 31st, 2002, 01:15 AM
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Dwayne's process is best price for the process. i think 10 dollars each process unless you plan to push or pull that would be 20 dollars and week to let it do it,... It is in Kansas your state's neighbor. Check your camera's the front for mm and you can play with various filter for its lens... Might need to study the filter before you shoot that way you can get a picture in mind what picture would be,... Check ebay that you can buy 10 dollars for tripod without fluid level. use your zoom back in full and pull the camera little away from the two people and check the light meter to assure it s underexposure and right fps that you can shoot two people into a frame together. unless you use it outside if inside light is suggest. hang in there, OKIE! Happy 2003! Jerome, deaf filmmaker (born in stilwell, ok)
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December 31st, 2002, 01:58 AM
#3
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I would only risk the Kodachrome so far, seeing how their note on the processing list says movie film takes 2 weeks to process for 4.88. The only film that actually takes 2 weeks to process is Kodachrome, and all the rest can be done through outlabs of your local camera shop or online super 8 labs. The only difference is the price, and it will range around 10.00 or more per roll. I think for 4.88 at Wal-Mart you can't beat the proce and the quality of the processing is fine, but I have yet to risk a roll of Ektachrome or Tri-X there yet.
If you become the first to risk a roll, let me know [img]smile.gif[/img]
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December 31st, 2002, 02:46 AM
#4
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Has anyone ever tried processing Ektachrome or Tri-X through Walmark??? I can't believe the would even do it.
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December 31st, 2002, 04:12 PM
#5
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A focal length of 10mm is wider than 30mm. The lower the number, the less magnified the image is. The higher the number, the more magnified the image is. The more magnified, the less that fits in the frame. Like Jerome said, you'll need to back up to fit more in the frame if you're zoomed all the way out (to 10mm) already.
Have you checked out the Canon 318 M manual that is linked from this page here?
http://www.8mm.filmshooting.com/manuals/canon.php
It's a zip file of scanned images of each page in the book. You'll have to download it, unzip it, and rotate the images, and probably zoom in some to be able to read them. The manual says the 318 M lens takes a 40mm filter. There are a few filters made in 40.5mm size, but 40mm is not common at all. If it is really 40mm, you probably won't be able to find any screw in filters to fit.
An expensive option is to have someone like Steve Grimes (S.K. Grimes) custom machine a 40mm adaptor for you. http://www.skgrimes.com/ You'd have to send your lens to him. He could make you a step up adaptor to a very common size like 48mm, but it probably won't be cheap.
You might look at a 3x3 inch gelatin filter holder like the Lee Gel Snap holder. It consists of a gel holder frame and a rubber band to hold the filter onto the front of your lens. The 3x3 version costs more than the 4x4 version, because they are really the same except the 3x3 version has a 3x3 filter mask that fits into the 4x4 holder. 3x3 filters are cheaper than 4x4, so it would pay to spend more up front for the 3x3 version of the Lee Gel Snap. You can see what it looks like at the B&H Photo web site here: http://www.bhphoto.com Just search in their Photo category.
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December 31st, 2002, 09:03 PM
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Also, can anyone recommend a CHEAP tripod? At this point anything will do. I don't need a fluid-head yet.
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Try Wal-Mart.
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Is there anyway to get MORE into the frame? I mean, if I were to shoot two people in my kitchen, I couldn't get their whole bodies if I wanted to. So to get MORE into the frame do I need a camera with a smaller number (below 10) or a bigger number (over 30)?
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I think the shortest focal length you will find is about 8.5mm, although you might find something around 7mm. I think the best solution is to use two mirrors, periscope style, to allow you to back up further.
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I ordered 4 rolls of film from Kodak, 1 each of the films except for the non-projecter kind. Can Wal-Mart get ALL of these processed?
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I don't think Wal-Mart will process anything other than K-40. I think the best route for K-40 is to purchase direct from Kodak and ask for CAT No. 505 3335, which is K-40 with processing. You get a mailer which you send to Kodak, Fairlawn, New Jersey.
For processing Ektachrome 125 and the B&W films there is a list of labs at http://www.8mm.filmshooting.com/thelab/labs.php
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January 1st, 2003, 12:14 AM
#7
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Damn. I thought Wal-Mart could process all that stuff. Someone said they farmed it out to another lab. Does that lab actually ONLY process that one type?
What do you guys recommend for processing? I'll buy the film/processing together next time, but for this time, what do you guys suggest? I have to send it out because NO ONE does it locally.
-Danny
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January 1st, 2003, 01:29 AM
#8
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Damn. I thought Wal-Mart could process all that stuff. Someone said they farmed it out to another lab. Does that lab actually ONLY process that one type?
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Maybe Wal-Mart does process it all but I don't think so. The only way to tell for sure is to drop it off at Wal-Mart and see if it comes back processed or with a "cannot do" note. I won't help to ask your local Wal-Mart people because they don't know diddley and you with your weird film are just a pain in the butt for them.
Wal-Mart does farm out the K-40 to Dwayne's in Parsons, KS. Dwayne's only does K-40. I've heard that Wal-Mart actually farms it out to Fuji who, in turn, farms it out to Dwayne's. Maybe they farm out the other stuff to someone else or do it themselves. I'm not sure the "Wal-Mart farms out to Fuji" rumor is true.
I personally use Yale for Ekta and neg. My B&W goes to Film & Video Services because as far as I know they are the cheapest.
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I have to send it out because NO ONE does it locally.
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Welcome to the club. I'll bet less than 1% of us live near a lab that does it.
By the way, Film and Video Services can process K-40 as B&W. Some people think it looks better than Plus-X or Tri-X.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 31, 2002 09:31 PM: Message edited by: Actor ]</font>
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January 1st, 2003, 01:41 AM
#9
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By the way. There is one thing you ought to know. THERE ARE ONLY TWO LABS IN THE WORLD THAT PROCESS K-40. One is Kodak's lab is Switzerland. The other is Dwayne's.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 31, 2002 09:42 PM: Message edited by: Actor ]</font>
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January 1st, 2003, 09:46 PM
#10
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I thought I recently read somewhere here on this board that Switzerland no longer processes the K40, and that it was actually done in Japan and Australia!? Who said this?
-Chris
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